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    <title>The Minutes of Marc Rowan</title>
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      <title>Rowan reports Q2 originations of $74 billion, excluding Broadcom which was the sector&#x27;s largest ever originati</title>
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      <description>“Origination here was a very strong quarter, 74,000,000,000. Just to give you some perspective, that does not include Broadcom, the largest origination in our sector ever, or a number of others.” — i101</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 22:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan states $50 billion of signed deals will benefit future quarters and pipeline is at record strength.</title>
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      <description>“$50,000,000,000 of signed and announced in Q2 will benefit coming quarters. The pipeline has never been stronger” — i101</description>
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      <title>Rowan reports consistent spreads of 340 basis points over treasuries at BBB average rating on originations.</title>
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      <description>“But most importantly, it&#x27;s coming at consistent spread, three forty basis points over treasuries off an average rating of BBB.” — i101</description>
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      <title>Rowan completes list of demand sources including traditional asset managers and 401(k)s.</title>
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      <description>“of our institutional clients, plus traditional asset managers and plus four zero one ks and DC.” — i101</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2026 22:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan announces new Austin office intended to build future businesses rather than replicate existing operation</title>
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      <description>“We confirmed yesterday that we will be opening a new office in Austin, Texas. And unlike a new office that simply houses more of the same,” — i101</description>
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      <title>Rowan references recent gating of direct lending funds as negative liquidity discussion in the industry.</title>
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      <description>“The most recent discussion that&#x27;s had across our industry on liquidity has been in the negative context of the gating of direct lending funds over the past few months.” — i101</description>
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      <title>Rowan says the investment grade private credit market is $38 trillion, making the total private credit opportu</title>
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      <description>“The investment grade private credit market, which is being driven by the global industrial renaissance, is a $38,000,000,000,000 market. Therefore, the total opportunity in private credit is some $40,000,000,000,000” — Castify Earnings Call</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 09:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan calls the industry&#x27;s focus on the $2 trillion levered lending market a failure of imagination.</title>
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      <description>“The obsession with this very narrow corner of the market, this $2,000,000,000,000 slice levered lending is frankly a failure of imagination.” — Castify Earnings Call</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 09:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan says Apollo will provide daily pricing for all corporate investment grade assets by June 30.</title>
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      <description>“For our platform, which is the largest private credit platform in the world, by sixthirty, our investors will have daily pricing for all corporate investment grade fixed income assets.” — Castify Earnings Call</description>
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      <title>Rowan commits to 100% daily pricing across Apollo&#x27;s entire credit business by September 30.</title>
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      <description>“By ninethirty, all investors will have daily pricing for direct lending and asset backed finance also. That essentially means the totality of our credit business will be 100% daily pricing by ninethirty.” — Castify Earnings Call</description>
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      <title>Rowan says Athene&#x27;s exposure to levered lending is 0.4% and software exposure is 0.1%.</title>
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      <description>“Our exposure to levered lending, which people sometimes call private credit is de minimis. Rounds closer zero than to 1% came in at 0.4%. Our exposure to software, 0.1%.” — Castify Earnings Call</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts Europe will become the strongest investment grade private market on a percentage basis.</title>
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      <description>“Europe is going to be on a percentage basis, in our opinion, the strongest investment grade private market in the world.” — Castify Earnings Call</description>
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      <title>Rowan says credit managers unable to meet 5% quarterly redemptions are idiots.</title>
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      <description>“For us, if you can&#x27;t, as a first lien credit manager, meet 5% redemptions per quarter, I&#x27;ll say it frankly, you&#x27;re an idiot.” — CNBC Television</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 18:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan argues enterprise software losses are about sector concentration and AI disruption, not public versus pr</title>
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      <description>“Because if you&#x27;re public and you are concentrated in enterprise software, the stocks are down 6070%.” — CNBC Events</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 13:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan says Apollo&#x27;s insurance company holds only 0.4% in levered lending due to regulatory inefficiency.</title>
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      <description>“to give you a sense for our insurance company, we round closer to zero than to 1%. It&#x27;s like point 4%.” — CNBC Events</description>
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      <title>Rowan notes major innovation companies like SpaceX, OpenAI, and Stripe all remain private despite US capital m</title>
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      <description>“But I&#x27;ll go through the companies who are creating massive change. SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI, Stripe, Cursor, Cognition, Andoril. What do all of them have in common?” — CNBC Events</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues ten companies now represent nearly 50% of S&amp;P 500, all concentrated on one trend.</title>
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      <description>“Have 10 companies today who account for nearly 50% of the S and P 500, and those 10 companies are all levered to one trend.” — CNBC Events</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts five tech companies will be among ten largest investment-grade issuers within five years.</title>
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      <description>“The 10 largest issuers of IG five years from now, if everything holds, are gonna be five large tech companies and five large banks.” — CNBC Events</description>
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      <title>Rowan explains banks excel at short-term lending while Apollo excels at long-term lending backed by retirement</title>
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      <description>“And if you think about people like us, we borrow really long because we back retirement liabilities. And institutions, pension funds, endowments, sovereign wealth funds, they borrow really long.” — CNBC Events</description>
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      <title>Rowan says the private credit market is $40 trillion, but press coverage focuses on only $2 trillion of levere</title>
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      <description>“Loans to customers, loans to companies, they&#x27;re all private. What we spend all our time talking about on the press is $2,000,000,000,000 of $40,000,000,000,000 which should properly be called levered lending.” — CNBC Television</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 15:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan argues private credit has de-risked the United States by moving risky lending out of the government-back</title>
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      <description>“I would say that private credit levered lending, direct lending, has actually been a de risking for the entire United States and for investors.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan says investors sold equities, not bonds, to buy private credit, thereby de-risking their portfolios.</title>
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      <description>“no one sold their treasuries or their investment grade bonds to buy private credit. Investors sold their equities.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan dismisses redemption concerns, saying Apollo handled $750 million in first quarter outflows easily.</title>
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      <description>“And so for us, $750,000,000 in the first quarter, dollars $750,000,000 out in the first quarter, this is not of any moment.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan says the real story is private equity&#x27;s 30% concentration in enterprise software during an AI-driven tec</title>
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      <description>“we&#x27;re seeing, this technology shift take place at a point in time when the private equity industry spent a decade where 30% of their activity was enterprise software. That to me is the story.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan says institutional money is flowing in and will normalize spreads except for software facing AI disrupti</title>
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      <description>“Money is coming in institutionally, and it is going to result in reasonably normal spreads for the except with the exception of software, which has nothing to do with public or private.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>But now as we&#x27;ve been saying, it&#x27;s only 70% of what you need to worry about. The other 30% is geopolitics. It&#x27;</title>
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      <description>“But now as we&#x27;ve been saying, it&#x27;s only 70% of what you need to worry about. The other 30% is geopolitics. It&#x27;s government borrowing. It&#x27;s excesses in capital markets and it&#x27;s technological change.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2026 17:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan notes software stocks are down almost 70% after markets recently realized AI&#x27;s impact on the sector.</title>
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      <description>“But apparently two weeks ago we discovered that AI is going to impact software and we&#x27;ve been in a massive risk off mode and so software stocks are down almost 70%.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <title>Rowan describes unprecedented simultaneous global infrastructure spending across US, Europe, and Middle East f</title>
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      <description>“S, they want to do in Europe and they&#x27;re not as well prepared to it and they&#x27;re doing it in The Middle East and they&#x27;re doing it elsewhere around the world.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <title>Rowan says the banking system is in the best shape he has seen in his 42-year career.</title>
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      <description>“I think it&#x27;s in the best shape I&#x27;ve ever seen it in my forty two years of professional career.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <title>The vast majority of the private market is investment grade. There&#x27;s a $40,000,000,000,000 market and 99% of t</title>
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      <description>“The vast majority of the private market is investment grade. There&#x27;s a $40,000,000,000,000 market and 99% of the headlines are focused on a little slice of a trillion and 0.5 called levered lending.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <title>Rowan says Apollo originated over $300 billion in new investments last year, with 80% being investment grade.</title>
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      <description>“So if you think last year, we originated a little over $300,000,000,000 of new investments, mostly credit. 80% of that was investment grade. I assure you no one is complaining about the lack of buccaneering.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <title>Rowan claims an extra 1% return compounded over time produces 50-100% better retirement outcomes for retirees.</title>
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      <description>“But if you look around the world, every place that private assets have been added to public portfolios, you&#x27;ve gotten better outcomes.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <title>That felt really good on the way up. That&#x27;s not going to feel so good on the way down.</title>
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      <description>“That felt really good on the way up. That&#x27;s not going to feel so good on the way down.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan says Apollo focused on first lien, cash pay loans to large companies with low leverage.</title>
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      <description>“And there are companies of which we are one, but not the only one who went all first lien, who went almost all cash pay, who went large companies, who work with low leverage.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan criticizes managers with 30% portfolio concentration in a single industry being disrupted by technology.</title>
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      <description>“If 30% of your portfolio is in one industry and that one industry is being impacted by technology, you have not been a good risk manager.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan notes the major alternative asset managers grew from $40 billion combined in 2008 to nearly $1 trillion.</title>
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      <description>“I mean, we were the whole, the entirety of the companies that you see that are public today, everyone was 40,000,000,000 in 2008. We&#x27;re now close to a trillion Blackstone more KKR, a little less.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues the 30% market overhang from geopolitics, inflation, and technology was foreseeable and predictab</title>
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      <description>“I think the 30% overhang of geopolitics, inflation, technological change is now here. It was foreseeable, not maybe exactly how it occurred, but it was foreseeable. It was predictable.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts good risk managers will make record profits this year and next from defensive positioning.</title>
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      <description>“But now, as we&#x27;ve been saying, it&#x27;s only 70% of what you need to worry about. The other 30% is geopolitics, it&#x27;s government borrowing, it&#x27;s excesses in capital markets, and it&#x27;s technological change.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan notes software stocks have fallen almost 70% following the recent realization that AI will impact the so</title>
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      <description>“But apparently two weeks ago, we discovered that AI is going to impact software and we&#x27;ve been in a massive risk off mode. And so software stocks are down almost 70%.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan asserts the world is simultaneously building infrastructure, energy, manufacturing, defense, and AI, cre</title>
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      <description>“S, they want to do in Europe, and they&#x27;re not as well prepared to it, and they&#x27;re doing it in The Middle East, and they&#x27;re doing it elsewhere around the world.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>The vast majority of the private market is investment grade. There&#x27;s a $40,000,000,000,000 market, and 99% of</title>
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      <description>“The vast majority of the private market is investment grade. There&#x27;s a $40,000,000,000,000 market, and 99% of the headlines are focused on a little slice of a trillion and 0.5 called levered lending.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan reports Apollo originated over $300 billion in new investments last year, with 80% being investment grad</title>
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      <description>“So if you think last year, we originated a little over $300,000,000,000 of new investments, mostly credit. 80% of that was investment grade. I assure you, no one is complaining about the lack of buccaneering.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues an extra one percent compounded return in 401(k) investments results in 50% to 100% better retire</title>
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      <description>“And if you go to the extreme and you take retirees, for instance, in four zero one k, an extra percent compounded over the duration of how long you&#x27;re going to be in there is a 50% to 100% better outcome by having better investments.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan warns that ten companies dominate the S&amp;P, joking the U.S. retirement system is essentially levered to N</title>
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      <description>“We have 10 companies that dominate the S and P. We&#x27;ve essentially, as I sometimes joke, we&#x27;ve levered the entirety of the retirement system of The U. S. To NVIDIA.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts individual investors will match institutional scale in alternative investments.</title>
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      <description>“I predict that individuals will be at least as big as institutions in their alternative bucket.” — Marsh</description>
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      <title>Rowan challenges the forty-year assumption that private markets are inherently riskier than public markets.</title>
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      <description>“The disconnect in people&#x27;s minds of private and investment grade is actually funny to watch sometimes, because we&#x27;ve grown up with forty years of thinking that private is risky and public is safe.” — Marsh</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues public and private markets both contain risk; the key difference is liquidity, not safety.</title>
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      <description>“What if private is safe and risky, and public is safe and risky, and we&#x27;re talking about differing degrees of liquidity in different markets? I think that&#x27;s what we&#x27;re seeing.” — Marsh</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues private credit democratization has increased financial system resilience by diversifying credit a</title>
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      <description>“In fact, what&#x27;s happened is the democratization of private credit has made our system more resilient. Rather than credit being concentrated in a handful of banks, it&#x27;s now throughout the investment marketplace.” — Marsh</description>
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      <title>Rowan attributes active managers&#x27; failure to beat indexes to market structure changes, not lack of skill.</title>
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      <description>“Most active managers have failed to beat the index 90% of the time for twenty years. I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a result of lack of effort or intelligence.” — Marsh</description>
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      <title>Rowan defines Apollo&#x27;s role as asset origination, creating risk that doesn&#x27;t exist in traditional markets.</title>
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      <description>“Our role is to originate the assets. If we originate good risk that offers excess return per unit of risk, we will prosper, and we will have lots of buyers for our product, our own balance sheet, funds, individuals, institutions, insurance companies, four zero one ks, and so on.” — Marsh</description>
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      <title>Rowan says governments are borrowing record amounts while fracturing labor and goods flows through immigration</title>
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      <description>“We have governments around the world who are borrowing record amounts of money. We are, for maybe good and valid reasons, fractionalizing our labor supply through immigration reform.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan observes yield curve steepening with ten-year rates rising despite short rate cuts.</title>
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      <description>“Depreciating our currency has the tendency to be inflationary. And what we&#x27;re seeing is a steepening of the yield curve. Rates that matter, the ten year, are higher even if short rates are lower.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan corrects misconception that private credit means levered lending when most is actually investment grade.</title>
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      <description>“And the reality is most private credit is investment grade, And most of the credit in the financial system that is private, banks, insurers, pension funds, is investment grade.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan says investors use levered lending to reduce risk compared to equities and high yield bonds.</title>
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      <description>“We don&#x27;t think anything of Nvidia or the S and P going up or down 10 or 15%, and yet one private credit loan or one broadly syndicated loan defaults and people lose their mind.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan says consulting firms&#x27; 2030 energy forecasts are wildly scattered, showing data center equity is a funda</title>
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      <description>“The fact is if experts looking out not all that far have no idea, we are making a fundamental bet on equity.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan says hyperscaler debt is not a concern given their massive cash flows from diverse businesses.</title>
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      <description>“They have massive amounts of cash flow coming from lots of other businesses. And if I am worried about the debt of hyperscalers, the economy and The US have way bigger issues.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues governments are borrowing record amounts while fragmenting labor and goods flows through immigrat</title>
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      <description>“We have governments around the world who are borrowing record amounts of money. We are, for maybe good and valid reasons, fractionalizing our labor supply through immigration reform.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan observes yield curve steepening with ten-year rates rising despite lower short rates.</title>
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      <description>“And what we&#x27;re seeing is a steepening of the yield curve. Rates that matter, the ten year, are higher even if short rates are lower.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan says most private credit is investment grade, contrary to financial press focus on levered lending.</title>
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      <description>“In much of the financial press, private credit means levered lending, a below investment grade deal related activity.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan contrasts tolerance for equity volatility with outsized reaction to single private credit defaults.</title>
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      <description>“We don&#x27;t think anything of Nvidia or the S and P going up or down 10 or 15%, and yet one private credit loan or one broadly syndicated loan defaults and people lose their mind.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan says investors move from equity and high yield to levered lending for same returns with less volatility.</title>
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      <description>“Generally, what investors are doing is they&#x27;re taking money out of equity or out of high yield bonds and moving into levered lending. It&#x27;s roughly the same return, and it is less volatile.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan says consulting firms&#x27; 2030 energy forecasts are wildly inconsistent, resembling a scattered plot.</title>
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      <description>“And each of the good and the great consulting firms have weighed in, and it looks like a child scattered dark plot.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan cautions that owning data center equity does not guarantee profits despite valuable data.</title>
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      <description>“But I don&#x27;t think it is a foregone conclusion that because you own a data center and you own equity in it and data is valuable that you will make money in data center equity.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan recalls that 25 years ago, the idea of levered loans trading seemed impossible because every loan was di</title>
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      <description>“Twenty five years ago, the notion that levered loans would trade was a fantasy. How could they trade? Every loan was different.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <description>“Twenty five years later, levered loans trade because this one bank made a market in it, and then other banks came and made a market in it.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>And lo and behold, we take for granted that the broadly syndicated market trades. We have ETFs. We have open e</title>
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      <description>“And lo and behold, we take for granted that the broadly syndicated market trades. We have ETFs. We have open end mutual funds. We have a series of products.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues the boundary between public and private markets is currently in transition.</title>
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      <description>“We don&#x27;t think of them as private anymore. This notion of what&#x27;s public and what&#x27;s private, I think, is in transition.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <description>“I think what we&#x27;re seeing is the availability of capital in private markets is allowing companies to do a series of things, to invest for the long term, not to be driven by quarterly earnings, and to obtain massive amounts of debt and equity to finance their business plan without accessing public markets.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan notes the trend extends beyond AI to defense and other future sectors remaining private.</title>
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      <description>“And it is not just AI companies. The defense companies of the future, they&#x27;re also still private in many instances.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts large manufacturing and consumer companies will remain private in the future.</title>
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      <description>“It will not surprise me to have large manufacturing consumer companies that are private in the future.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <description>“I think we&#x27;re heading to a world where we not just have private credit, but we have equity that is private, not just private equity.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts a private company index will exist alongside the S&amp;P 500.</title>
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      <description>“It will not surprise me that we end up with an S and P 500 index and an index of companies that are private.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan contrasts the private markets landscape forty years ago with today&#x27;s more diversified options.</title>
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      <description>“Forty years ago, private was three products, Private equity, venture capital, and hedge funds. All can be good investments, but all have risk. And public were 8,000 public companies, diversified portfolios of stocks and bonds.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>Rowan states Athene manages over $400 billion in assets and grows $70 billion annually.</title>
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      <description>“It, along with its European affiliate, are now more than $400,000,000,000 of assets under management. We grow on a gross basis more than $70,000,000,000 a year.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>Rowan claims Apollo is the largest U.S. retirement services provider by a significant margin.</title>
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      <title>Rowan does not expect a recession with high unemployment given the 4% starting point.</title>
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      <description>“Do I think we will have a recession associated with large increases on unemployment? No, I don&#x27;t. Remember, we&#x27;re starting from a position of strength. We&#x27;re starting from 4% unemployment.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues extreme valuations in top stocks reflected money flows, not fundamentals.</title>
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      <description>“We had one stock which was larger than the market cap of every stock exchange in the world other than Japan. That was not necessarily fundamentals. That was money flow.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>Rowan asserts the U.S. remains the best market, capturing 60% of global capital flows.</title>
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      <description>“The reality is The U. S. Is the best market in town. We are still 60% of the world&#x27;s capital flow. We will be for a very long time.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts two quarters of negative growth if tariff uncertainty continues without resolution.</title>
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      <description>“We likely will cause two quarters of negative growth if we, in fact, don&#x27;t resolve the uncertainty. So until we have resolution of what the rules of the game are, it&#x27;s gonna be slow.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>US and Mexico together should be the driving economic force in the world for the next fifty years.</title>
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      <description>“US and Mexico together should be the driving economic force in the world for the next fifty years.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan warns the tariff approach has damaged the US brand for stability and predictability, with long-term cost</title>
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      <description>“Longer term, the way we&#x27;ve done this, we have done damage to The US brand. The brand for stability, for predictability, for regularity. That will eventually have some cost to us.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan sees US moving from hyperexceptionalism to merely exceptional, though alternatives could emerge over tim</title>
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      <description>“What I&#x27;ve said is I see us moving from what was hyperexceptionalism to merely exceptional because I don&#x27;t think there are good alternatives to The US today, but that can change over time.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues equity prices are not low, with average PE in mid-twenties versus historical 16.</title>
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      <description>“I do not believe prices are low. They are lower, but we&#x27;re still talking about an average PE as a reference in the mid twenties versus 16 over time.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan challenges the perception that public markets are safe and private markets risky.</title>
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      <description>“We have a perception that what&#x27;s public is safe and what&#x27;s private is risky. But what if we&#x27;re wrong?” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan notes investment grade bonds take five days to sell, predicting poor trading in risk-off moments.</title>
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      <description>“Takes five days today to sell an investment grade corporate bond. We should expect in every risk off moment public credit to trade poorly.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues the US is the freest trading market considering non-tariff barriers and questions why that should</title>
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      <description>“The US is the second freest trading market in the world financially after Japan and is the freest trading market in the world considering non tariff barriers. Why is that written in stone?” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan worries most about damage to US brand regarding long-term agreements and security pacts from tariff appr</title>
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      <description>“The one I worry about more is the second, which is damage to The US brand. What does our brand mean when it comes to long term agreements, long term security packs?” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues US and Mexico should dominate economically for fifty years with US manufacturing and Mexico as wo</title>
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      <description>“The US and Mexico should be positioned to dominate the economic landscape for the next fifty years. US advanced manufacturing, Mexico the workshop, and so on and so on.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan reports Mexican business leader told him they support tariffs if needed to make Mexico great again.</title>
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      <description>“One of the leading families said to me, if it takes tariffs to make Mexico great again, so be it. Imagine an administration that stood up” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan dismisses disappointment from investors who expected a God-given right to 11% annual returns.</title>
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      <description>“Those people who are tied to asset prices who thought we were had a God given right that everything move up at 11% annually are disappointed.” — CNBC Television</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 13:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan says he wouldn&#x27;t have taken Trump&#x27;s tariff gamble and cites short-term uncertainty and longer-term brand</title>
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      <description>“That&#x27;s not a gamble I would have taken from the position we had. Having said that, short term uncertainty, that&#x27;s the risk. Longer term brand, that&#x27;s the risk,” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan grades the U.S. economy an A for capital allocation but a C for understanding trade&#x27;s impact on labor.</title>
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      <description>“give us an a as an economy for allocation of capital and construction of assets, and give us a c for understanding trade and its impact on labor.” — CNBC Television</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 13:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan says the U.S. won&#x27;t manufacture low-value goods like sneakers given 4% unemployment and other priorities</title>
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      <description>“we are not going to make sneakers in The US. We have 4% unemployment. We&#x27;re building all these other things.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues the U.S. cannot be a low-cost manufacturing center without massive immigration.</title>
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      <description>“To the extent we do not want massive amounts of immigration, we are not going to be the low cost manufacturing center for low value goods.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan secured 99-0 Senate passage of the Antisemitism Awareness Act, including votes from Warren and Sanders.</title>
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      <description>“I went, door to door in the Senate for a piece of legislation called the Antisemitism Awareness Act, which defined antisemitism as anti Zionism in in shorthand.” — Park Avenue Synagogue</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues universities institutionalized sorting people by group status rather than treating them as indivi</title>
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      <description>“We afforded them lack of judgment of any action they had done based on their aggrieved status. And this became institutionalized in our universities.” — Park Avenue Synagogue</description>
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      <title>Rowan proposes merit-based admissions and hiring that allows consideration of socioeconomic status but not ide</title>
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      <description>“In admissions and in faculty hiring, no consideration of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, political viewpoint, religious viewpoint, otherwise. Merit. That does not mean you cannot hire the best basketball team.” — Park Avenue Synagogue</description>
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      <title>Rowan says Apollo&#x27;s $550 billion credit business needs to find $300-350 billion in assets over five years to d</title>
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      <description>“There&#x27;s mostly alpha, but there&#x27;s a chunk of beta in there. For us to double that business, it&#x27;s finding 300,000,000,000 of assets or 350,000,000,000 of assets over the next five years.” — Apollo Global Management</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues European regulators told banks to do less lending but forgot to enable investor alternatives, unl</title>
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      <description>“Everywhere in the world as I suggested, regulators have two choices as to where debt capital comes from, the banking system or the investor marketplace. Everywhere they&#x27;ve told the banks to do less.” — Apollo Global Management</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts illiquidity and structuring premiums will disappear as public and private markets converge, lea</title>
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      <description>“if I&#x27;m right and we&#x27;re right that public and private are going to converge to some extent, illiquidity premium, structuring premium, they&#x27;re going to disappear.” — Apollo Global Management</description>
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      <title>Rowan criticizes forcing $12-13 trillion in 401(k)s into daily liquid index funds for fifty-year periods based</title>
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      <description>“we have 12 to $13,000,000,000,000 in 04/2001 and we&#x27;re forcing these really long term investors to own daily liquid index funds for a period of time, fifty years.” — Apollo Global Management</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts a new administration would quickly allow illiquid investments in 401(k)s, creating substantial</title>
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      <description>“That will not just benefit Apollo, that will be another source of demand for the industry of a magnitude that will be quite substantial.” — Apollo Global Management</description>
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      <title>Rowan claims Apollo&#x27;s private markets plus guaranteed income offering is 60% better, not just 5-10% better.</title>
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      <description>“the outcome that we can offer with access to private markets and guaranteed income is not 5% better or 10% better, it&#x27;s 60% better.” — Apollo Global Management</description>
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      <title>Rowan says Apollo has done $100 billion in investment grade private deals since AB InBev.</title>
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      <description>“A $100,000,000,000 later we&#x27;re still doing investment grade private deals. And I I see nothing but a long line of interesting borrowers and interesting situations” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts investors won&#x27;t distinguish between public and private investment grade credit within 18 months</title>
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      <description>“Eighteen months from now, I do not believe investors will actually know the difference between investment grade public and investment grade private.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan critiques $12-13 trillion in 401k accounts being entirely in liquid S&amp;P index funds.</title>
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      <description>“What do they own. They own daily liquid stock index funds generally S and P for fifty years.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan says Australian superannuation with private market access delivers 50-60% better outcomes.</title>
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      <description>“The returns have been nothing short of spectacular. Outcomes for investors can be not a little better 5060% better.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan contrasts bank leverage of 12-14x with zero leverage at typical institutional investors and mutual funds</title>
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      <description>“A bank is levered 12 to 14 times. The typical institutional investor is levered zero. The typical mutual fund levered zero. Typical BDC levered 1.5 times. Typical retirement services company levered eight times.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan warns $2 trillion peacetime deficits at full employment threaten capital availability for future needs.</title>
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      <description>“The direct the notion that we are spending 2,000,000,000,000 in excess of what we take in in peacetime with full employment does not bode well for the availability of capital to do what we need to do” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan questions Fed rate cuts given wide-open markets, record equity highs, and rising real estate.</title>
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      <description>“The notion that we would cut rates. Financial markets are wide open. Equities are at all time high. Financing is available. Real estate prices are going up” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <description>“By recent measures, it would take you five days to sell an investment grade public corporate bond today because there is no liquidity.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan predicts that within a year, public and private markets will become indistinguishable from each other.</title>
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      <description>“I will predict that a year from now, you will not be able to tell the difference between public and private.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues that excess returns in private credit come from origination capacity, not from illiquidity premiu</title>
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      <description>“I believe excess return comes from origination. The capacity of an investor, someone like us, and we&#x27;re not the only ones who do this, who can go out and work with a company and solve their unique issues and make the commitment and structure and take the whole thing down and originate a credit.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <description>“Athene does not want a 100% of anything that we originate. They wanna be a diversified investor. They want 25% of everything and a 100% of nothing.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan states that trading capital in fixed income markets has declined to just 10% of 2008 levels.</title>
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      <description>“We&#x27;re just finding out, for instance, that there&#x27;s no liquidity in fixed income markets. That trading capital in the world is 10% today of what it was in 2008.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan declares a soft landing achieved after 400 basis point rate increase without economic breakdown.</title>
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      <description>“we&#x27;ve had a soft landing. When rates have gone up 400 basis points and the wheels haven&#x27;t come off the bus, as they say, I think that&#x27;s the definition of a soft landing.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan notes active equity managers failed to beat the market 93% of the time over twenty years.</title>
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      <description>“Here are people who have spent their whole lives becoming good investors, and they as an industry have failed to beat the market 93% of the time for twenty years.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan states public companies halved to 4,000 while 80% of large companies are now private.</title>
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      <description>“We now have 4,000 public companies. People think most of the action is in public markets. 80% of companies over 100,000,000 of revenue and 80% of employment is in private companies.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan questions why $12-13 trillion in 401k plans are daily liquid for fifty-year investments.</title>
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      <description>“What are these people invested in? They don&#x27;t know. Well, I&#x27;ll tell you, on the whole, they&#x27;re invested in daily liquid mutual funds and ETFs for fifty years.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan says he used to think of the left as liberal but now sees it as illiberal.</title>
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      <description>“Are they antiamerican? They are antiamerican. They&#x27;re actually anti western. We have we&#x27;re thought of as these protests are leftists. I used to think of the left as liberal. Now the left is illiberal.” — Yahoo Finance</description>
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      <title>Rowan says 100% of returns this year came from 10 stocks at 50 PE, which few would actively buy.</title>
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      <description>“A 100% of our returns this year are from 10 stocks which constitute 35% of the S and P that traded an average PE of 50.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan states active management has failed to beat the index 85% of the time for twenty years.</title>
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      <description>“If you look at the active management, active management has failed to beat the index 85% of the time for twenty years.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan reports Apollo&#x27;s best year ever with around $650 billion in assets under management.</title>
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      <description>“Single best year in Apollo&#x27;s history. Earnings. Asset performance. The our platform as you think about it we are around 650,000,000,000 of assets under management in our asset management business.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues regulators have only two choices for credit: banking system or investment marketplace.</title>
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      <description>“And regulators have only two choices as to where credit comes from. It can come from the banking system or it can come from the investment marketplace.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan says regulators globally are favoring investors over banks, except in China.</title>
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      <description>“But if you look at the trend with the exception of China everywhere in the world regulators are favoring investors over banks.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan warns that apathy is the worst outcome for universities currently facing donor pressure.</title>
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      <description>“I think the worst thing that can happen to these universities is apathy. Right now there&#x27;s not apathy. Donors are engaged. They want change.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan lists America&#x27;s advantages: immigration demand, knowledge base, energy, technology, market size, and mil</title>
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      <description>“Think about it. People want to come here. We have an incredible knowledge base. We have abundant energy. We&#x27;re leaders in technology. We have a massive domestic market. We&#x27;re the strongest military power.” — Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
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      <title>Rowan says 100% of S&amp;P returns this year came from 10 stocks at 50 PE, constituting 35% of the index.</title>
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      <description>“A 100% of our returns this year are from 10 stocks which constitute 35% of the S and P that traded an average PE of 50.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan argues retirement systems know their liquidity needs for ten years and should get paid for illiquidity.</title>
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      <description>“Liquidity liquidity is a risk to everyone but in differing degrees. So if you are a retirement plan or a retirement system, you know your liquidity requirements for the next ten years.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan states active management has failed to beat indexes 85% of the time over twenty years and will get harde</title>
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      <description>“If you look at the active management, active management has failed to beat the index 85% of the time for twenty years.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <description>“There is no daily liquid, quarterly liquid money at Apollo. We are ideally situated to take advantage of less liquid assets. We&#x27;ve structured ourselves that way.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan reports Apollo&#x27;s best year ever with $650 billion AUM, $500 billion in credit.</title>
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      <description>“Single best year in Apollo&#x27;s history. Earnings. Asset performance. The our platform as you think about it we are around 650,000,000,000 of assets under management in our asset management business. 500,000,000,000 of that is credit.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <description>“And regulators have only two choices as to where credit comes from. It can come from the banking system or it can come from the investment marketplace. There&#x27;s no third choice.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan says regulators worldwide except China are favoring investors over banks, though not a sudden shift.</title>
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      <description>“But if you look at the trend with the exception of China everywhere in the world regulators are favoring investors over banks. That does not mean we&#x27;re gonna see a sunshift.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <description>“You know, imagine telling a group of firefighters a week after nine eleven that you&#x27;re sorry for their loss, and then adding the word but as if you&#x27;re going to explain the action of the terrorist.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <description>“In the background, there are three trustees and one chairman in my instance who are being asked to step off the board, all of whom signed this open letter, disagreeing with what the university is doing, and all four of us Jewish.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan reports $150 million in donations has moved away from Penn over the controversy.</title>
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      <description>“We already have seen a 150,000,000 that would have come to the university move away from the university.” — CNBC Television</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description>“We&#x27;ve seen more than 4,000 of our most engaged alumni basically say the university is heading in the wrong direction.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan says the question is whether President McGill is the right person to manage the problem.</title>
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      <description>“This is not president McGill didn&#x27;t create this problem. The question is, is she the right person to manage this problem?” — CNBC Television</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rowan states Apollo ended the year with $550 billion AUM including $400 billion in mostly investment-grade pri</title>
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      <description>“Apollo Asset Management ended the year roughly $550,000,000,000 $400,000,000,000 of private credit, mostly investment grade, dollars 75,000,000,000 of hybrid equity, 75,000,000,000 of private equity.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>So in 2008, we started with a $16,000,000 equity investment. We ended the year at 330,000,000,000 and have bec</title>
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      <description>“So in 2008, we started with a $16,000,000 equity investment. We ended the year at 330,000,000,000 and have become the largest provider of retirement products in The US.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>2022 was a good opportunity for us to realize that public can be both safe and risky, and private can be both</title>
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      <description>“2022 was a good opportunity for us to realize that public can be both safe and risky, and private can be both safe and risky. The only difference is a degree of liquidity.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>Twenty years ago, there was alpha left in publicly traded fixed income markets. Firms like ours offered you a</title>
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      <description>“Twenty years ago, there was alpha left in publicly traded fixed income markets. Firms like ours offered you a high yield bond account, a levered loan account.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>Rowan says investors can earn single A corporate rates plus 300 basis points for 90-180 days of illiquidity.</title>
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      <description>“If you can earn single A corporate bond rates plus 300 for being less liquid for ninety or one hundred and eighty days, it seems like a pretty good trade.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>Rowan says Athene&#x27;s new sales grew from $20 billion four years ago to over $60 billion this year.</title>
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      <description>“Four years ago, we were 20,000,000,000 of new sales, then 30,000,000,000, then 47,000,000,000. This year, we&#x27;ll do north of $60,000,000,000 of new sales, and it continues to be.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <title>Everything that was purchased prior to 2022 is today worth less. The change in cap rates, the change in intere</title>
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      <description>“Everything that was purchased prior to 2022 is today worth less. The change in cap rates, the change in interest rates has simply made the market worth less.” — Barron&#x27;s</description>
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      <description>“42,000,000,000 left SVB in four hours without a line. So you&#x27;re now the CEO of a big regional bank. Your cost of funds is up.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2023 16:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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      <description>“I&#x27;ll be shocked if five years from now the business model of a regional bank looks like what they do today.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <description>“We now know public can be risky as well. We now have found out that private can be both safe and risky. What we&#x27;re talking about is differing degrees of liquidity.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <description>“I think retail investors high net worth are gonna be 50% allocated to alternatives in the next five years. Now 50.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan says Apollo&#x27;s $400 billion in private credit is still irrelevant in a $40 trillion market.</title>
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      <description>“The upside from simply executing the business plan that&#x27;s in front of us is so high that the price of distraction is just very hard to contemplate.” — Bloomberg Television</description>
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      <description>“Amazing amount of money flowing into retirement services, particularly annuities. I would say the golden age of annuities,” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <description>“They prefer 5% to 2%. It&#x27;s no more we can make it really complicated, but when they&#x27;re they&#x27;ve had a decade of very low ability to provide for retirement income, all of a sudden, can lock in 5% plus tax free for the next decade.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <title>Rowan says the private credit industry grew from $40 billion AUM in 2008 to $550 billion at Apollo.</title>
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      <description>“Our entire industry was 40,000,000,000 of AUM. Every one of the companies plus minus in 2008. We ended the year at 550,000,000,000.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <description>“We went for the private investment grade market. That is the dominant franchise we have built. What we&#x27;re seeing right now, particularly the turbulence in banking, these are the kind of assets we compete for.” — CNBC Television</description>
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      <description>“If you look at the now thirty two year history, 36% gross 26% net returns every fund has made carry.” — David Rubenstein</description>
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      <description>“And what started out as a $16,000,000 equity investment has now morphed into 270,000,000,000 of AUM and the largest retirement services company in” — David Rubenstein</description>
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      <description>“Think about what that does from an alignment point of view. We go to a client and we offer them nothing that we don&#x27;t already own.” — David Rubenstein</description>
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      <description>“The banking system is 25% of all corporate capital. In Europe it&#x27;s 65%. In Asia I think it&#x27;s 90%.” — David Rubenstein</description>
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      <description>“You&#x27;re getting downside protection because the world is uncertain from a geopolitical and an economic point of view. You have enough equity upside that you should have pretty good returns.” — David Rubenstein</description>
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      <title>Rowan says origination strategy earns 150 to 200 basis points premium at near investment-grade level.</title>
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      <description>“And if you could earn 150 to 200 basis points more in origination at a very safe near investment grade level, that&#x27;s a business we want to build.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“And the ability to get it to $607,100,000,000,000, it sounds massive, but in the context of the markets in which they participate, it&#x27;s just not all that big.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“And what we&#x27;ve told the Street is we will grow our business 15% plus cash on cash year over year, and I think that&#x27;s really good.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“And in that fund, which was the 2,001 fund, 44% net returns. So, now you fast forward and you look at the last three funds we&#x27;ve done.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <title>Rowan reports Apollo&#x27;s $25 billion fund is delivering 44% gross returns and high-20s net returns.</title>
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      <description>“44% gross on the $25,000,000,000 fund, high 20s net. The world just keeps moving. The world just keeps changing. It&#x27;s our job to continue to reinvent ways to extract and to produce value.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“This thing called hybrid, which is $30,000,000,000 is actually really interesting because it is neither yield nor opportunistic. It is never going be the highest rate of return.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“That&#x27;s a $30,000,000,000 business. I think that business will be two and a half to three times its size in the next five years.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“We are in, as I sometimes say, the fixed income replacement business. We&#x27;re $330,000,000,000 today. Five years from now, that&#x27;ll be twice its size.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“And what we&#x27;ve told the street is we will grow our business 15 plus cash on cash year over year. And I think that&#x27;s really good.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“And in that fund, which was the two thousand and one fund, 44% net returns. So now you fast forward and you look at the last three funds we&#x27;ve done.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“This thing called hybrid, which is 30,000,000,000, is actually really interesting because it is neither yield nor opportunistic. It is never going to be the highest rate of return.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“I&#x27;ve told our internal team our business is gonna change more in the next five years than it&#x27;s changed in the past.” — Bloomberg Live</description>
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      <description>“UJA has allocated more than $55,000,000 in response to the pandemic, feeding families, helping people find employment, sustaining the Jewish community&#x27;s core institutions, providing dignified Jewish burials and so much more.” — The LionTree Podcast</description>
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      <description>“He said, good leaders create followers, great leaders create more leaders. That is what I see looking at all of you.” — The LionTree Podcast</description>
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