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      <title>Howard Marks: Marks believes market worry about software sector distress is excessive and outcomes will be bet</title>
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      <description>“I think today, if you could if you could ascertain people&#x27;s expectations, I personally think that the that the level of worry and the universality of worry with regard to software is probably excessive.” — Howard Marks, Barron&#x27;s</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2026 17:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Howard Marks: Marks argues companies are not failing and investors paint software concerns with too broad a br</title>
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      <description>“It I I think there&#x27;s an expectation. And and, you know, investors tend to paint things with the broad brush and not make fine distinctions.” — Howard Marks, Barron&#x27;s</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2026 17:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner argues software stocks have reverted from premium valuations to market multiples when</title>
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      <description>“Software stocks have reverted from a decade long superior multiple to the market to a market multiple.” — Brad Gerstner, Altimeter Capital</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 20:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Dylan Patel: Patel explains AI software stacks update multiple times per week making performance measurement a</title>
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      <description>“with software changing literally multiple times a week, right, PyTorch has nightlies, VLM has nightlies, Asteeling has nightlies, CUDA drivers update constantly. You just go You go through the whole list.” — Dylan Patel, TensorWave</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 18:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Dylan Patel: Patel notes AI software stacks update constantly with nightly builds making performance measureme</title>
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      <description>“with software changing literally multiple times a week, right, PyTorch has nightlies, VLM has nightlies, Asteeling has nightlies, CUDA drivers update constantly.” — Dylan Patel, TensorWave</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 18:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Bill Gurley: Gurley argues software requiring deterministic data like financial ledgers is safer from AI disru</title>
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      <description>“It needs to be quite deterministic, and so I think the software that&#x27;s safer is one where there&#x27;s a need for deterministic data,” — Bill Gurley, Forbes</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 23:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Marc Rowan: Rowan notes software stocks are down almost 70% after markets recently realized AI&#x27;s impact on the</title>
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      <description>“But apparently two weeks ago we discovered that AI is going to impact software and we&#x27;ve been in a massive risk off mode and so software stocks are down almost 70%.” — Marc Rowan, Bloomberg Live</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2026 17:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Marc Rowan: Rowan notes software stocks have fallen almost 70% following the recent realization that AI will i</title>
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      <description>“But apparently two weeks ago, we discovered that AI is going to impact software and we&#x27;ve been in a massive risk off mode. And so software stocks are down almost 70%.” — Marc Rowan, Bloomberg Podcasts</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2026 16:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner explains software stocks fall before earnings miss due to higher discount rates and lo</title>
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      <description>“We can&#x27;t forecast as well. Therefore, the terminal value must be lower. The discount rate is higher and the multiple comes down. So the stocks come down well before they start missing.” — Brad Gerstner, Fox Business</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2026 03:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Bill Gurley: Gurley explains tech stock selloffs occur because terminal value collapses if AI threatens twenty</title>
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      <description>“And for most of these high-tech companies, the next five years cash flow are a fraction of their actual market cap, which means all the values in the terminal value.” — Bill Gurley, Brew Markets</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2026 20:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner says software valuations only recover when companies prove they are AI beneficiaries t</title>
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      <description>“So the only way that reverses, Scott, is those companies have to accelerate their core revenues and show that they are beneficiaries of AI.” — Brad Gerstner, Altimeter Capital</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 21:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner says AI uncertainty has rationally caused investors to discount future cash flows and</title>
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      <description>“I can&#x27;t see as far into the future, so I&#x27;m gonna pay less for the terminal value. I&#x27;m gonna pay less for those future free cash flows.” — Brad Gerstner, Altimeter Capital</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 21:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner explains software stocks previously traded at 35x free cash flow due to bond-like pred</title>
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      <description>“Give them 35 times free cash flow because I had that level of predictability. It was like a government bond.” — Brad Gerstner, Altimeter Capital</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 21:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Jensen Huang: Huang calls the notion that AI will replace software tools illogical, despite software stock pre</title>
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      <description>“There&#x27;s this notion that the tool in this the software industry is in decline and will be replaced by AI.” — Jensen Huang, Cisco</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 04:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner says software multiples fell from 17x forward revenue in 2021 to 4.2x today, a generat</title>
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      <description>“Look at that peak in 2021. Right? We&#x27;re almost 17 times forward revenue. Today, we&#x27;re at at about 4.2 times. So we&#x27;re at a generational low in terms of the the multiple for software.” — Brad Gerstner, Altimeter Capital</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2026 22:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner says now is the time to find the 10% of beaten-down software companies that will benef</title>
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      <description>“90% of the companies that are down deserve to be down. Find the 10 that got thrown out with the bathwater. Find the 10%, right, that are going to benefit from AI.” — Brad Gerstner, CNBC Television</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2026 18:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner argues the market wrongly treats all software equally and expects meaningfully acceler</title>
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      <description>“And so we&#x27;ll see. These guys have to deliver. And so I expect we&#x27;re gonna see meaningfully accelerating revenues out of those companies,” — Brad Gerstner, CNBC Television</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2026 18:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner says software multiples fell from 17x forward revenue in 2021 to 4.2x today, a generat</title>
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      <description>“We&#x27;re almost 17 times forward revenue. Today, we&#x27;re at at about 4.2 times. So we&#x27;re at a generational low in terms of the the multiple for software.” — Brad Gerstner, CNBC Television</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2026 18:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>David Friedberg: Friedberg persisted with building agricultural software despite investors telling him to focu</title>
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      <description>“How do we retain our agents from last year? Just all the typical stuff that goes on with scaling a business.” — David Friedberg, Venture Europe</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 12:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner recounts Satya Nadella saying most applications are just interfaces on CRUD databases,</title>
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      <description>“When Satya came on our pod and he said that, you know, that at the end of the day, most applications are just consumer interfaces sitting on top of a CRUD database and, you know, Mark Benioff calls me and he&#x27;s like, you know, that&#x27;s not true.” — Brad Gerstner, Khosla Ventures</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2025 22:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Bill Gurley: Gurley predicts headlines about death of software will appear silly in less than 24 months.</title>
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      <description>“I suspect that these headlines, the end of software, the death of software, in I would argue less than twenty four months will appear to be silly.” — Bill Gurley, Bg2 Pod</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2024 14:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Bill Gurley: Gurley argues software deal slowdowns stem from uncertainty about AI bets rather than budget pres</title>
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      <description>“Rather than budget pressures, what I really think you&#x27;re seeing is the slowing down and the elongation of the big commits because people really need to make sure that they&#x27;re betting on the future, not on the past.” — Bill Gurley, Bg2 Pod</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2024 14:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner explains that rule of 40 and revenue multiples are shortcuts for determining free cash</title>
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      <description>“Whether your rule of 40 or a multiple of revenue, those are shorthands for getting at the multiple of free cash flow.” — Brad Gerstner, BG2 Pod</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Bill Gurley: Gurley says Silicon Valley rushes to price-to-revenue multiples because it&#x27;s the crudest, least i</title>
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      <description>“I&#x27;ve always said that Silicon Valley has the crudest kind of least intelligent view of valuation. They always rush to price to revenue because it&#x27;s easy and because quite frankly, it&#x27;s easier to be optimistic.” — Bill Gurley, BG2 Pod</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>David Friedberg: Friedberg argues too much capital flows into small software projects seeking quick 10x return</title>
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      <description>“And you could probably make 50,000,000 in return. That&#x27;s a nice little 10 bagger. Great. Let&#x27;s do that. And then let&#x27;s plow a trillion dollars into that concept.” — David Friedberg, How I Invest Podcast</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2024 04:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Dylan Patel: Patel reports PyTorch 2.0 delivered 30% performance improvement on 7,000 popular GitHub models.</title>
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      <description>“So I think I think I think, the PyTorch Foundation tested the 7,000 most popular most starred models on GitHub, and they got, like, a 30% increase.” — Dylan Patel, Gradient Flow</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2023 12:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner found only 21 public software companies exceed $2B revenue and $25B value.</title>
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      <description>“Public software companies over 2,000,000,000 in revenue, we got to 21. Okay? There are only 21 that are worth more than $25,000,000,000” — Brad Gerstner, All-In Podcast</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2022 04:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Gavin Baker: Baker argues Google was first cloud provider to embrace rather than compete with third-party infr</title>
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      <description>“B, there&#x27;s a lot of money to be made just in providing these primitives. Let&#x27;s stop trying to compete with these independent infrastructure software providers right on top of the cloud.” — Gavin Baker, Invest Like the Best</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Gavin Baker: Baker argues AI is now eating software, extending Andreessen&#x27;s famous thesis.</title>
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      <description>“Marc Andreessen wrote this op ed, whatever it was, ten years ago about how software is eating the world. Now AI is eating software.” — Gavin Baker, Invest Like the Best</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2022 09:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Brad Gerstner: Gerstner argues AWS, GCP and Azure enable software companies to scale faster and more capital e</title>
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      <description>“But the fact of the matter is because of AWS, GCP and Azure, software companies are scaling faster and in a more capital efficient way” — Brad Gerstner, Invest Like the Best</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2020 09:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Gavin Baker: Baker reports small businesses are cutting software bills 30-50% in an hour by simply asking vend</title>
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      <description>“In the last two days, lots of friends have come to me and said, Hey, I told my brother, my sister, my mom, my dad, my uncle, my aunt, my friend who has a small business, that story, they did the same thing and they cut their software bill 30 to 50% in an hour.” — Gavin Baker, Invest Like the Best</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2020 09:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Gavin Baker: Baker reports a dentist cut her software bill in half in one hour with zero pushback.</title>
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      <description>“In one hour, she cut her software bill in half. One hour, she said there was zero pushback.” — Gavin Baker, Invest Like the Best</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2020 09:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Gavin Baker: Baker recounts a dentist cutting her software bill in half in one hour with zero pushback.</title>
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      <description>“In one hour, she cut her software bill in half. One hour, she said there was zero pushback. And I&#x27;ve been telling people this story.” — Gavin Baker, Invest Like the Best</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2020 09:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Gavin Baker: Baker recounts how a dentist cut her software bill in half in one hour by threatening to switch v</title>
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      <description>“He said, tell Gavin exactly what you just told me. And his sister is a dentist and obviously she&#x27;s grappling with how to run her practice.” — Gavin Baker, Invest Like the Best</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2020 09:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Gavin Baker: Baker references Robert Smith&#x27;s claim that software is better than first lien debt.</title>
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      <description>“Robert Smith is the CEO of Vista Equity Partners, brilliant man. And he famously said software is better than first lien debt.” — Gavin Baker, Invest Like the Best</description>
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      <description>“And today it&#x27;s roughly 30% excluding spending on the big cloud hyperscale infrastructures and service companies like Azure, Amazon web services, and Google GCP.” — Gavin Baker, Invest Like the Best</description>
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      <description>“And I think that is dangerous because in &#x27;eight, &#x27;nine software was seven to 10 of IT spend. And today it&#x27;s roughly 30% excluding spending on the big cloud hyperscale infrastructures” — Gavin Baker, Invest Like the Best</description>
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      <description>“A lot of people are baselining off what happened in &#x27;eight, &#x27;nine. And I think that is dangerous because in &#x27;eight, &#x27;nine software was seven to 10 of IT spend.” — Gavin Baker, Invest Like the Best</description>
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