Howard Lutnick · Pod Force One with Miranda Devine · 1 October 2025

“the Commerce Department has the most tools, right? It has BIS, right? BIS, the Bureau of Industry and Security, Export controls, two thirty two tariffs, that's the auto tariffs, the pharmaceutical tariffs, the semiconductor tariffs, All steel and aluminum, these, and these are not part of the Supreme Court case. They are not. These are durable, defensible.”

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