The Minutes

Marc Rowan on

public vs private

5 entries, 9 Oct 2024 to 6 Feb 2026

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    1. spoken

      Rowan predicts illiquidity and structuring premiums will disappear as public and private markets converge, leaving origination as key return source.

      “if I'm right and we're right that public and private are going to converge to some extent, illiquidity premium, structuring premium, they're going to disappear.”

      9 Oct 2024 · Apollo Global Management · 12:21 · source · permalink
    2. spoken

      Rowan criticizes forcing $12-13 trillion in 401(k)s into daily liquid index funds for fifty-year periods based on flawed assumptions.

      “we have 12 to $13,000,000,000,000 in 04/2001 and we're forcing these really long term investors to own daily liquid index funds for a period of time, fifty years.”

      9 Oct 2024 · Apollo Global Management · 22:56 · source · permalink
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      Rowan says private market capital enables companies to invest long-term without quarterly pressure or accessing public markets.

      “I think what we're seeing is the availability of capital in private markets is allowing companies to do a series of things, to invest for the long term, not to be driven by quarterly earnings, and to obtain massive amounts of debt and equity to finance their business plan without accessing public markets.”

      3 Sep 2025 · CNBC Television · 0:25 · source · permalink
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      Rowan argues public and private markets both contain risk; the key difference is liquidity, not safety.

      “What if private is safe and risky, and public is safe and risky, and we're talking about differing degrees of liquidity in different markets? I think that's what we're seeing.”

      6 Feb 2026 · Marsh · 5:14 · source · permalink
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      Rowan challenges the forty-year assumption that private markets are inherently riskier than public markets.

      “The disconnect in people's minds of private and investment grade is actually funny to watch sometimes, because we've grown up with forty years of thinking that private is risky and public is safe.”

      6 Feb 2026 · Marsh · 5:00 · source · permalink

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