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economics

8 people · 56 quotes · 19 Mar 2020 to 25 Aug 2026

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    1. David Friedberg

      Friedberg cites Treasury Secretary Mnuchin predicting 20-30% unemployment by summer if shutdowns continue.

      “Steve Mucin, The US Treasury Secretary, was saying that we should expect 20% to 30% of the workforce to be unemployed by this summer if we keep this up.”

      19 Mar 2020 · All-In Podcast · 3:43 · source · permalink
    2. David Friedberg

      Friedberg argues happiness requires relative progress not absolute income, so UBI will inevitably cause societal decay.

      “So the notion of some sort of flatlined or even flatlined at inflation adjusted basic income level for a large number of people will inevitably result in kind of what we're trying to prevent, which is, you know, some sort of decay, societal decay.”

      19 Sep 2020 · All-In Podcast · 31:52 · source · permalink
    3. Brad Gerstner

      Gerstner explains SPAC costs are borne by SPAC shareholders through share dilution, not by the company going public.

      “All the costs are borne by the shareholders of the SPAC who gave us part of their shares when we set up the SPAC as a finder's fee for helping them invest in a world class company.”

      27 Oct 2020 · Invest Like the Best · 17:51 · source · permalink
    4. Brad Gerstner

      Gerstner describes SPAC fee structure where shareholders pay via dilution, similar to VC fund economics.

      “I mean, it's very similar to our VC funds where we get paid for helping our investors invest in companies like Snowflake.”

      27 Oct 2020 · Invest Like the Best · 18:03 · source · permalink
    5. Sir Richard Dearlove

      Dearlove says Russia has roughly Italy's GDP, ranking thirteenth or fourteenth globally, with an aging population.

      “Russia, in fact, now has more or less the GDP of Italy, somewhere around thirteenth or fourteenth in the world. And it has an aging population.”

      29 Oct 2020 · Technion UK · 13:34 · source · permalink
    1. David Friedberg

      Friedberg explains inflation moves through economy in stages, starting with commodities before becoming sticky in services.

      “So the first thing we saw inflate was sort of hard commodities and soft commodities, things like energy and agricultural products and metals and so on.”

      17 Oct 2022 · Megyn Kelly · 17:59 · source · permalink
    1. Dylan Patel

      Patel says memory now represents 30-50% of GPU manufacturing cost and NVIDIA applies 4x markup.

      “And and now today, if you look at it, the cost of memory is 30 to 50% of the GPU cost. Great cost. And then obviously, NVIDIA does a four x markup on their”

      2 Feb 2023 · Gradient Flow · 10:05 · source · permalink
    2. David Friedberg

      Friedberg argues 95% of people will eat what's cheap and tasty, not sustainable premium products.

      “They're coming up the economic ladder and they're gonna eat more meat and they're gonna eat what tastes good and they're gonna eat whatever they can afford.”

      30 Apr 2023 · Consumer VC with Mike Gelb · 7:12 · source · permalink
    3. Dylan Patel

      Patel calculates doubling lithography cost only increases total chip cost 10 percent, enabling five nanometer.

      “Because again, the manufacturing cost of lithography is only one fourth to one fifth. So if you double lithography costs, you're only increasing the total cost of a chip by 10%, right?”

      4 Oct 2023 · Hidden Forces · 48:13 · source · permalink
    4. Dylan Patel

      Patel argues training costs are irrelevant, noting GPT-4 used 20,000 A100s.

      “training costs are irrelevant. Right? Like, GPT four, right, like, 20,000 a one hundreds, that's that's like, I know it sounds like a lot of money.”

      5 Dec 2023 · Latent Space · 4:37 · source · permalink
    1. Bill Gurley

      Gurley explains AI memory requires retraining models per person, creating an economically unsustainable structural problem.

      “And of course that makes no sense economically. So it's actually a huge structural problem. There are complaints, you know, in Reddit about Character AI on this front.”

      8 Feb 2024 · BG2 Pod · 1:13:35 · source · permalink
    2. Bill Gurley

      Gurley argues deglobalization is highly inflationary and makes US companies less competitive, not more.

      “Like, this is just, you know, deglobalization, highly inflationary, and will make our companies less competitive, not more.”

      16 May 2024 · BG2 Pod · 0:10 · source · permalink
    3. David Friedberg

      Friedberg details potato economics: $5,000 per acre revenue with $1,000-2,000 operating costs, demonstrating room for Ohalo's value capture.

      “That potato farmer today is spending somewhere between one top line, that potato farmer is making about $5,000 an acre in The US. K?”

      4 Jun 2024 · The Modern Acre · 21:09 · source · permalink
    4. Brad Gerstner

      Gerstner cites Morgan Stanley forecasting carbon offset spending rising from $2 billion to $100 billion by 2030.

      “In 2020, Morgan Stanley estimates that about $2,000,000,000 was spent on the carbon offset market, and by 2030 they expect that to be $100,000,000,000 by these large hyperscalers that have to buy these massive carbon offsets.”

      25 Sep 2024 · BG2 Pod · 5:45 · source · permalink
    5. Dylan Patel

      Patel argues AI demand is what makes continued semiconductor node advancement economically viable today.

      “funding the next node would not be economically viable anymore if it weren't for AI taking off. Right? And then generating all this humongous demand for the most leading edge chip.”

      2 Oct 2024 · Dwarkesh Patel · 44:42 · source · permalink
    6. Dylan Patel

      Patel states OpenAI is paying $12.5 billion over five years for one-fifth of Oracle's data center site.

      “So for one fifth of the site, they're paying something like $12,500,000,000 over the next five years.”

      12 Nov 2024 · Scaling Intelligence · 15:51 · source · permalink
    1. Dylan Patel

      Patel breaks down full H100 GPU cost at $40,000 to $45,000 including networking and infrastructure versus $24,000 for chip alone.

      “each GPU, right, once you include networking, building, all this sort of stuff maybe is you know, the GPU itself of h 100 is, like, 24,000, but once you add everything else up, it's, like, forty, forty five thousand dollars per GPU all in of everything.”

      21 Jan 2025 · Unsupervised Learning: With Jacob Effron · 26:45 · source · permalink
    2. Dylan Patel

      Patel argues that efficiency gains alone without capability increases cannot justify massive AI infrastructure investments.

      “That would not pay for all of these build outs. Right? AI is useful today, but it's not capable of doing a lot of things.”

      23 Apr 2025 · Alex Kantrowitz · 33:53 · source · permalink
    3. Dylan Patel

      Patel describes Chinese manufacturers as locked in constant cost reduction cycle rather than margin expansion.

      “there's this constant pressure cooker of continual cost reductions and engineering. It's not like, Oh, well, we make 80% margins. Our cost is low.”

      22 Jun 2025 · Going Direct · 41:34 · source · permalink
    4. Dylan Patel

      Patel states 80% of GPU data center cost is capital equipment, only 20% is land, power, and cooling.

      “It's the it's the physical data center conversion power conversion equipment. All of this stuff is, like, 80% of the cost. And then 20% is gonna be your land and your power and your cooling”

      18 Aug 2025 · a16z · 47:36 · source · permalink
    5. Brad Gerstner

      Gerstner notes US is only 14% of China's exports and 3% of China's GDP.

      “The US only represents about 14% of China's exports. The US only represents about 3% of China's GDP.”

      28 Aug 2025 · BG2 Pod · 22:12 · source · permalink
    6. David Friedberg

      Friedberg details potato economics: $5,000 per acre revenue with $1,000-$2,000 operating costs for current methods.

      “Okay? And that $5,000 of revenue is requiring an investment of 1 to $2,000 an acre.”

      11 Sep 2025 · The Modern Acre · 20:49 · source · permalink
    7. David Friedberg

      Friedberg projects Ohalo potato seed at $500 per acre could deliver $1,500 per acre profit improvement.

      “You know, you can probably see that you could save at least 15 or create at least $1,500 an acre of operating profit improvement for that potato grower.”

      11 Sep 2025 · The Modern Acre · 21:29 · source · permalink
    8. David Friedberg

      Friedberg details potato economics showing farmers spend 20-40% of $5,000 per acre revenue on current planting methods.

      “And that $5,000 of revenue is requiring an investment of 1 to $2,000 an acre. So 20 to 40% of revenue to deal with all of the planting and fumigation and storage”

      11 Sep 2025 · The Modern Acre · 20:25 · source · permalink
    9. David Friedberg

      Friedberg estimates Ohalo's potato seed could create $1,500 per acre operating profit improvement for growers.

      “You could probably see that you could save at least 15 or create at least $1,500 an acre of operating profit improvement for that potato grower.”

      11 Sep 2025 · The Modern Acre · 21:02 · source · permalink
    10. David Friedberg

      Friedberg asks about unit cost advantage of drone delivery versus traditional food delivery drivers.

      “As you're launching in The US, do you have a sense Keller, are you gonna beat the unit cost to deliver with delivery drivers today and by how much?”

      30 Sep 2025 · All-In Podcast · 57:42 · source · permalink
    11. Dylan Patel

      Patel states AI infrastructure represents 25% to 75% of current US quarterly economic growth.

      “It's anywhere from 25% to 75 of the current quarter's economic growth. That's insane for The US.”

      31 Oct 2025 · Chris Best Substack · 1:59 · source · permalink
    12. Dylan Patel

      Patel says as the largest technology Substack, the 10% platform fee is worth paying for the growth.

      “Even though a 10% cut sounds like a lot, I'm the largest technology substack and I'm telling you that it's worth it.”

      31 Oct 2025 · Chris Best Substack · 17:22 · source · permalink
    13. David Friedberg

      Friedberg cites research showing happiness plateaus at $60k income but correlates with year-over-year income change above that level.

      “at the time, it improved up to $60,000 of income a year Right. Then it flatlined beyond And then the the the key measure of happiness was income change year over year.”

      21 Dec 2025 · Network State Podcast · 1:27:23 · source · permalink
    14. David Friedberg

      Friedberg explains happiness research showing year-over-year income change matters more than absolute wealth for human satisfaction.

      “the key measure of happiness was income change year over year. The more your income changes from one year to the next, the happier you are.”

      21 Dec 2025 · Network State Podcast · 1:27:29 · source · permalink
    15. David Friedberg

      Friedberg states 40 million Americans graduated with student loans in the last decade, averaging $40,000 debt each.

      “four you know, four forty million Americans graduated in last ten years from student from college with student loan. Average student loan debt $440,000.”

      21 Dec 2025 · Network State Podcast · 1:28:38 · source · permalink
    1. David Friedberg

      Friedberg estimates more than half of Americans rely on government checks directly or indirectly for income.

      “By my estimate, more than half of Americans rely on a government check either directly or indirectly.”

      13 Jan 2026 · All-In Podcast · 49:35 · source · permalink
    2. Dylan Patel

      Patel explains users will pay 10x more for 10x faster inference completion, justifying Cerberus economics.

      “for a lot of people, I'm fine to spend 10x the price on something that completes 10x faster. So Cerberus sort of just makes a ton of sense there.”

      3 Feb 2026 · TBPN · 7:14 · source · permalink
    3. Jensen Huang

      Huang says AI expands addressable market from $1 trillion IT industry to $100 trillion global economy.

      “The IT industry is about a trillion dollars, right, or so, plus or minus a couple. And yet the the economy of the world is about a $100,000,000,000,000.”

      4 Feb 2026 · Cisco · 38:44 · source · permalink
    4. Dylan Patel

      Patel calculates $100B AI revenue requires $250B infrastructure spend at five-year depreciation, double current capex.

      “That $50,000,000,000 of COGS needs to burn on infra, which cost roughly with if a five if you're talking about five year depreciation, call it $250,000,000,000, right, of infra Yeah. For a $100,000,000,000 of revenue.”

      5 Feb 2026 · The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck · 49:45 · source · permalink
    5. Dylan Patel

      Patel notes 2% of GitHub commits are AI-generated against $2 trillion in global software wages.

      “You can disable that where it's not automatically committed. But 2% of GitHub commits today are Cloud Code. $2,000,000,000,000 of software wages paid in the world.”

      5 Feb 2026 · The MAD Podcast with Matt Turck · 51:51 · source · permalink
    6. Dylan Patel

      Patel observes perception shift where 90th percentile people consider themselves middle class while 50th percentile people do not.

      “Nowadays, people in the ninetieth percentile think they're middle class, and people in the fiftieth percentile don't think they're middle class.”

      9 Mar 2026 · Matthew Berman · 23:22 · source · permalink
    7. Dylan Patel

      Patel says he now supports UBI despite being very capitalist, a shift from his prior views.

      “Over the last couple years I've realized, wait, I actually think UBI is perfectly fine. Which I think is crazy because again, I'm very capitalist.”

      9 Mar 2026 · Matthew Berman · 48:53 · source · permalink
    8. David Friedberg

      Friedberg says shipping costs from moon to Earth are zero due to physics advantages.

      “And the reason is if you can get to the moon, the moon has an extraordinary abundance of material that we can mine, process, and manufacture into goods.”

      5 Apr 2026 · All-In Podcast · 0:04 · source · permalink
    9. David Friedberg

      Friedberg says continuous moon mining and manufacturing would cost a fraction of Earth operations.

      “So we could run continuous mining, continuous manufacturing processes on the moon at a fraction of the cost of what it would take to do it here on Earth.”

      5 Apr 2026 · All-In Podcast · 0:59 · source · permalink
    10. David Friedberg

      Friedberg predicts the moon will become a giant economy comparable to the East India Company.

      “I actually think the moon is gonna be a giant, giant, giant economy. And I think it's like one of these economies.”

      13 Apr 2026 · Chris Williamson · 26:18 · source · permalink
    11. David Friedberg

      Friedberg claims energy costs dropping to one cent per kilowatt hour would expand every economy.

      “if you get the cost of energy down to 1¢ a kilowatt hour, it absolutely expands every economy. Like, everything blows up. Like, imagine if you”

      13 Apr 2026 · Chris Williamson · 27:27 · source · permalink
    12. David Friedberg

      Friedberg states extending lifespan by one year adds tens of trillions to GDP.

      “For every one year, we can extend average human lifespan. We're adding tens of trillions of dollars to GDP. Right? So this is also another big economic driver.”

      13 Apr 2026 · Chris Williamson · 51:17 · source · permalink
    13. David Friedberg

      Friedberg estimates nearly half the US population receives government paychecks, pensions, or welfare benefits.

      “Today, if you add up federal, state, local government employees, plus all the contractors for the government, plus all the people that live off of a retirement check or or a welfare support check, so all the people that are living off government checks, it's about nearly half The US population.”

      13 Apr 2026 · Chris Williamson · 2:04:28 · source · permalink
    14. Dylan Patel

      Patel cites estimates of 20% economic decline if Taiwan is invaded, comparable only to world wars.

      “And then subsequently, that that sends the world into a depression. Right? The world has not experienced a 20 free fall since maybe, like, a one of the great wars.”

      13 May 2026 · Swole as a Service · 10:48 · source · permalink
    15. Bill Gurley

      Gurley argues AI productivity gains will be competed away through lower prices, not retained as higher margins.

      “I don't think there's any scenario where you just do more for less and all of a sudden everyone has 70% operating margins. That's not gonna happen.”

      29 May 2026 · All-In Podcast · 1:28:38 · source · permalink
    16. Dylan Patel

      Patel states GPU rental rates were $12-13 billion per gigawatt before recent increases.

      “GPUs, at least before the craziness of the last six months, usually went around 12 to $13,000,000,000 per gigawatt.”

      30 Jun 2026 · Sequoia Capital · 58:29 · source · permalink
    17. Gavin Baker

      Baker says rendering Monopoly Go with AI would cost over 100x its revenue at list prices.

      “So what is the role for human creativity, man? I don't know. I don't know. Like what I hope, one of the reasons Neuralink is such an exciting company”

      8 Jul 2026 · Generating Alpha Podcast · 59:02 · source · permalink
    18. Dylan Patel

      Patel says OpenAI's total gross margin rose from 30% to 55% over the past year.

      “OpenAI late last year, their margins had were roughly 30% gross margin, but if you stripped away the free users, they were at 50%. Now, total company gross margin is closer to 55%,”

      16 Jul 2026 · RAISE Summit · 1:33 · source · permalink
    19. Dylan Patel

      Patel explains KV cache storage and reuse enables massive cost decreases in inference.

      “you calculate that once, you store it off in memory, whether it be system memory or storage, and then you pull it back in when you run the turn.”

      16 Jul 2026 · RAISE Summit · 8:48 · source · permalink
    20. Dylan Patel

      Patel reports that tokens now represent 30% of his 90-person company's costs versus 70% for employees.

      “My my own company of 90 people, 30% of my cost now is tokens versus 70% employee costs.”

      22 Jul 2026 · RAISE Summit · 7:23 · source · permalink
    21. Gavin Baker

      Baker cites Dwarkesh noting compute margins rising alongside volume and inference margins, driving lab acceleration.

      “Borgesch, he's a very smart guy. He's very plugged in. Then he pointed out that margins on compute are going up.”

      4 Aug 2026 · Invest Like the Best · 40:49 · source · permalink
    22. JD Vance

      Vance argues that millions of illegal aliens increased housing costs by taking homes from American citizens.

      “And when you give them houses that all go by right to American citizens, that's gonna increase the cost of housing for everybody else.”

      24 Aug 2026 · Forbes Breaking News · 1:15 · source · permalink
    23. JD Vance

      Vance claims rents are falling for the first time in a decade under Trump after doubling under Biden.

      “Where housing doubled under the leadership of Joe Biden, rents are falling for the first time in a decade under the leadership of Donald Trump”

      24 Aug 2026 · Forbes Breaking News · 1:27 · source · permalink
    24. Dylan Patel

      Patel reports Anthropic now generates up to $50 million per megawatt, a 5x return on compute costs.

      “And and what that now enables them to do is, hey, if I spend $10 on inference capacity, actually generate $50 of revenue,”

      25 Aug 2026 · Dwarkesh Patel · 3:13 · source · permalink
    25. Dylan Patel

      Patel argues hyperscalers would pay 8% interest rates versus current 5-6% given AI compute returns.

      “Meta's raised at, like, 5% to 6%. I don't see why they wouldn't pay 8% Because they would happily pay 8% because the return from the compute that they're going to build is humongous.”

      25 Aug 2026 · Dwarkesh Patel · 57:08 · source · permalink

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