Who is on this subjectordered by the date of their first quote here
5 of 6 lanes rest on fewer than 5 quotes and are marked thin. Offsets are days from the middle first-quote date, 5 Dec 2023 — a date, and nothing else. It is not a claim about who reached a view first.
- Stanley Druckenmiller 1 thin 6 Jan 2020 – 6 Jan 2020 -1429 d
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Brad Gerstner
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11 Aug 2023 – 5 Jun 2025
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Marc Rowan
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5 Dec 2023 – 2 Oct 2024
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David Friedberg
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2 Jul 2024 – 18 Mar 2026
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David Sacks
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13 Feb 2026 – 13 Feb 2026
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Scott Bessent
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20 Aug 2026 – 20 Aug 2026
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Stanley Druckenmiller
Druckenmiller describes Britain as having stronger fiscal position than US with 2% deficit-to-GDP versus 4.5%.
“If you look at it, what if I were to tell you there was a Republican president but a better version, and you had two thirds Republican majorities, in both houses of congress.”
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Brad Gerstner
Gerstner notes inflation falling despite massive government spending from chips act and infrastructure bills.
“And this is remember, we're seeing inflation roll over huge, and we have a chips act and an infrastructure we have massive government spending going on, and we still see inflation rolling over.”
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Marc Rowan
Rowan says America faces retirement, healthcare, and budgetary crises it cannot address due to lack of leadership and consensus.
“And yet we have challenges that we have not been able to as a result of lack of leadership, as a result of political consensus to address. We have a retirement crisis.”
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David Friedberg
Friedberg states the US has $33 trillion national debt and a proposed $7 trillion budget next year.
“We are proposing the federal administration is proposing a $7,000,000,000,000 budget next year. We have $33,000,000,000,000 of national debt.”
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David Friedberg
Friedberg calculates refinancing half of U.S. debt at higher rates adds $300 billion in annual interest payments.
“And when that happens, you know, 2% increase in interest on $15,000,000,000,000 that's another $300,000,000,000 of interest payments a year.”
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David Friedberg
Friedberg argues politicians get elected by promising more benefits rather than cutting spending for fiscal sustainability.
“That's how people get elected in a democracy. They go to the voters, they say, here's what I'm going to give you.”
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Marc Rowan
Rowan warns that spending $2 trillion in excess during peacetime with full employment threatens future capital availability.
“The direct the notion that we are spending 2,000,000,000,000 in excess of what we take in in peacetime with full employment does not bode well for the availability of capital to do what we need to do for”
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Marc Rowan
Rowan warns $2 trillion peacetime deficits at full employment threaten capital availability for future needs.
“The direct the notion that we are spending 2,000,000,000,000 in excess of what we take in in peacetime with full employment does not bode well for the availability of capital to do what we need to do”
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Brad Gerstner
Gerstner calculates federal budget balances in four years with 3-4% revenue growth and modest 5-5-2% annual cost cuts.
“So all that does is get you back to trend line from 2019 As though we increased spending 3% a year from 2019, the budget balances. It's tiny. These are tiny changes in costs.”
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Brad Gerstner
Gerstner calculates that 4.9% revenue growth would produce a $450B surplus by 2029.
“If we grew revenues at the same rate that we have for the last twenty years, right, starting next year, which is 4.9% per year CAGR for twenty years, we would end up with a $450,000,000,000 surplus in 2029.”
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Brad Gerstner
Gerstner calculates every $300 billion in cuts equals 1% GDP headwind, making $2 trillion cuts impossible without recession.
“The problem is every $300,000,000,000 you cut is a 1% headwind to GDP. So if you cut $2,000,000,000,000 in a single year, you have negative 7% GDP, right? It would throw us into a recession”
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David Friedberg
Friedberg estimates over half of Americans rely on government income directly or indirectly.
“So you're either employed by the federal, state, or local government or its agencies or one of its contractors or you're receiving one of the retirement checks from a government agency.”
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David Friedberg
Friedberg predicts federal bailout of state and local governments under Democratic control to avoid economic crisis.
“If you end up with a democrat controlled house and a democrat president in 2028, you'll very likely see a federalization of that obligation, meaning that the federal government will step in to bail out or support those state and local governments because otherwise there's gonna be a real kind of economic crisis afoot.”
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David Sacks
Sacks recommends tracking federal outlays and receipts as percent of GDP to assess fiscal health.
“This is from Fred, right? And then you wanna look at federal receipts, which is tax receipts as a percent of GDP.”
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David Friedberg
Friedberg states US has $40 trillion debt, $2 trillion deficit, with $1 trillion just in interest payments.
“We have $40,000,000,000,000 of debt and we're gonna have a $2,000,000,000,000 deficit this year. A trillion dollars of that is just interest on the existing debt. That number is getting bigger and bigger every year.”
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David Friedberg
Friedberg warns Social Security projected to run out of money within five to ten years.
“A bunch of programs are gonna run out of money, including social security, which is projected to run out of money sometime between, call it five and ten years from now.”
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Scott Bessent
Bessent announces fiscal consolidation initiative from President Trump to be revealed end of week or early next week.
“We are the announcing probably at the end of this week, beginning of next week, an increased focus on fiscal consolidation. And, you know, it's the coming from president Trump.”
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Where they overlapsame programme, same subject
- David Friedberg and David Sacks — All-In Podcast, 1 appearance together
- Bloomberg Television also carries Marc Rowan and Stanley Druckenmiller on this subject, at different times.