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Gurley believes being public helps companies run better through enforced discipline from smart investors.
“I believe strongly that I think is less well understood is that being public actually helps the companies run better. It's an enforced discipline.”
Gurley argues that surviving downturns is easier as a public company because IPOs convert complex structures to common stock.
“And it turns out that surviving down periods is a lot easier as a public company than a private company because you've converted all that away.”
Gurley argues it is easier to survive downturns as a public company than as a late-stage private company.
“And so oddly, it's easier as a public company than a late stage private company to go through these types of periods.”
Baker says great public equity investors are often wrong more than right, with best batting averages around 55%.
“They're wrong more than they're right, but because they make more money when they're right, they still have a great track record.”
Rowan reframes public versus private markets as fundamentally about liquidity rather than risk.
“We now know public can be risky as well. We now have found out that private can be both safe and risky. What we're talking about is differing degrees of liquidity.”
“2022 was a good opportunity for us to realize that public can be both safe and risky, and private can be both safe and risky. The only difference is a degree of liquidity.”
“Twenty years ago, there was alpha left in publicly traded fixed income markets. Firms like ours offered you a high yield bond account, a levered loan account.”
Rowan says 100% of S&P returns this year came from 10 stocks at 50 PE, constituting 35% of the index.
“A 100% of our returns this year are from 10 stocks which constitute 35% of the S and P that traded an average PE of 50.”
Rowan states active management has failed to beat indexes 85% of the time over twenty years and will get harder.
“If you look at the active management, active management has failed to beat the index 85% of the time for twenty years.”
Rowan says 100% of returns this year came from 10 stocks at 50 PE, which few would actively buy.
“A 100% of our returns this year are from 10 stocks which constitute 35% of the S and P that traded an average PE of 50.”
Gurley notes public company count has shrunk by almost half, changing venture landscape.
“the number of public companies has shrunk dramatically. And Michael's written about this, but we've gone, I think, almost half. Is that right, Michael?”
Rowan notes active equity managers failed to beat the market 93% of the time over twenty years.
“Here are people who have spent their whole lives becoming good investors, and they as an industry have failed to beat the market 93% of the time for twenty years.”
Rowan states public companies halved to 4,000 while 80% of large companies are now private.
“We now have 4,000 public companies. People think most of the action is in public markets. 80% of companies over 100,000,000 of revenue and 80% of employment is in private companies.”
Gerstner earned 100x returns on Amazon in public markets, returns now going to private investors instead.
“So I earned a 100 x return in the public markets. Right? By all accounts, venture capitalists would do back flips for that return, but those returns were going to private market participants.”
Rowan argues equity prices are not low, with average PE in mid-twenties versus historical 16.
“I do not believe prices are low. They are lower, but we're still talking about an average PE as a reference in the mid twenties versus 16 over time.”
Rowan challenges the perception that public markets are safe and private markets risky.
“We have a perception that what's public is safe and what's private is risky. But what if we're wrong?”
Gurley notes US public companies have fallen to less than half their peak number.
“So the number of public companies in The US is less than half of peak. And so we've really had a fall off in the number of companies that are actually public.”
Rowan notes major innovation companies like SpaceX, OpenAI, and Stripe all remain private despite US capital market strength.
“But I'll go through the companies who are creating massive change. SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI, Stripe, Cursor, Cognition, Andoril. What do all of them have in common?”
Rowan argues ten companies now represent nearly 50% of S&P 500, all concentrated on one trend.
“Have 10 companies today who account for nearly 50% of the S and P 500, and those 10 companies are all levered to one trend.”
Atkins says IPOs declined from 4,000 in the 1990s to only 3,200 in the following 25 years.
“During the decade of the 1990s, there were approximately 4,000 IPOs. In the 25 years since then, there have been only 3,200.”
Atkins says public market benefits cannot be re-created privately and aims to extend them to more issuers.
“benefits that “simply cannot be re-created privately.” 1 This morning, I would like to focus on the Commission’s recent efforts to extend those benefits to a broader range of issuers”
Atkins describes IPOs as invitations for workers and savers to participate in American enterprise prosperity.
“Every IPO is an invitation to workers and savers to participate in the prosperity of the next generation of American enterprise.”
Atkins cites 40 percent decline in public companies over recent decades as rationale for returning to disclosure foundation.
“Presented with a 40 percent decline in public companies over the past few decades, we are summoned not to create more complexity nor reinvent our mandate, but to restore it to its foundation: that is, disclosure of material information.”