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5 people · 33 quotes · 2 Jul 2019 to 12 Jun 2026
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Gurley criticizes VCs who think cheap capital enables them to pursue low-return businesses in new industries.
“But I overheard a VC on a panel say that now that capital's become so cheap, we as venture capitalists get to go after all these new industries.”
Gurley argues that VCs using cheap capital to enter new industries are actually funding low-return businesses.
“I overheard a VC on a panel say that now that capital's become so cheap, we as venture capitalists get to go after all these new industries.”
Baker recounts how Sunu Kalra's simple iPod vs Walkman comparison gave him conviction to hold Apple long-term.
“And as soon as I heard that, it's like, wow. It really doesn't matter. Apple went on to be seven x, 10 x, 15 x from there.”
Gerstner warns his team that being too early on investments is as dangerous as being too late.
“When we think about the future we're always paying attention you know one thing that I would say is I remind my team it's just as dangerous to be too early as it is to be too late.”
Gerstner warns his team that being too early on a trend is as dangerous as being too late.
“And I was talking of I was worried about the future of search and the future of vertical search starting in 2010,”
Friedberg admits he was wrong betting against vegetarian meat alternatives, shocked consumers pay premiums for sustainability.
“I've been fucking shocked by how many people are choosing to pay a premium for vegetarian meat alternatives. I was wrong on this. I I bet against these companies eight years ago.”
Gerstner calls access to top tech companies the most asymmetric bet in investing history.
“The the the most asymmetric bet maybe in the history of all of investing is having a golden ticket to have access to the best technology companies in the world today.”
Gurley reveals personal position in Ethereum after studying crypto, says Ethereum crowd more pragmatic than Bitcoin.
“We are in chain analysis, which you referenced. And I'm swayed by the Ethereum crowd. The parties that are involved there seem to be way more pragmatic.”
Baker says the key trait for public equity investors is the ability to be rational when wrong.
“If I could know one thing about a person to know whether or not they would be a good public equity investor, it would simply be, are you capable of being rational when you're wrong?”
Baker says great public equity investors are often wrong more than right, with best batting averages around 55%.
“They're wrong more than they're right, but because they make more money when they're right, they still have a great track record.”
Gurley says all investors must hold strong opinions loosely because variables constantly change.
“And Yes. I think I think all investors have to work within that framework because things change.”
Gurley discovered Dell had 20-to-1 ROIC advantage versus competitors using return on invested capital framework.
“It turned out just by happenstance that Dell stood out like a sore thumb with ridiculously high ROIC numbers versus the rest of the industry. Like, night and day, like, 20 to one.”
Gurley found Dell's return on invested capital was 20 times higher than competitors, initially unbelievable.
“Like, night and day, like, 20 to one. Wasn't even close. And in fact, it was so ridiculous.”
Gurley believes Facebook's stock would double if they shut down VR, which costs $5-10 billion annually.
“Wall Street's on my side on this one. I think if they shut down the VR effort, not only will the profitability would soar because they're spending real money, like 5 to 10,000,000,000 a”
“I think there's plenty of time. If this is going to be as big and as transformational as humanity as we all think it will be, remember, you didn't have to invest in search until Google's IPO in 2004 to capture 95% of all ever generated by Internet search.”
Gerstner reveals Altimeter has passed on 75 AI investment opportunities in the last twelve months.
“Today to me, you know, we've passed on 75 AI businesses over the course of the last twelve months that we've looked at, not because we don't think those are good founders or maybe even good business models,”
Gerstner proposes three investment categories instead of two: venture under $100M revenue, quasi-public over $1B, and public markets.
“One thing that we have done and I've encouraged LPs like endowments to think about is we used to have these two buckets. Right? Venture and public when I talk to technology investors.”
Gurley argues increasing returns vary in strength, with some linear and some exponential, forming a scale of network effects.
“It's arguable there are levels of increasing returns. Like, you could come up with some kind of scale or index because some of them are more linear and some of them can go exponential.”
Gurley admits pattern recognition led VCs to miss HubSpot, Shopify, and Twilio due to anti-small-business bias from Intuit precedent.
“And so you develop this anti small business mindset, which keeps you out of HubSpot and Shopify and Twilio. Then miss massive amounts.”
Gerstner contrasts buying NVIDIA in fall 2022 based purely on tech fundamentals versus today's layered policy risks.
“What do I do as an investor? You know, what did I do in the fall of twenty two that led me into NVIDIA in the first place?”
Friedberg argues ag tech delivers real innovation and value despite poor VC returns in the sector.
“But that doesn't mean that ag tech isn't innovating and that we aren't improving productivity and bringing value to farmers and improving the quality of our food systems.”
Friedberg explains ag tech sales cycles are fundamentally longer than enterprise software due to seasonal farming windows.
“You know, you get to keep your sales cycle going all the time. In ag tech, you have seasonal cycles that you're kind of stuck to.”
Friedberg argues ag tech delivers real innovation and farmer value despite poor VC returns in the sector.
“But that doesn't mean that ag tech isn't innovating, and that we aren't improving productivity and bringing value to farmers and improving the quality of our food systems.”
Gurley warns retail investors that 100x AI returns already happened; current odds are very low.
“And that's not to say there won't be an incremental AI investment that makes money, I think there will. But your odds right now of that being the case are really, really low.”
Gurley quotes Bezos saying he only invests when founders will pursue their vision regardless of funding.
“I only look for one thing. I want to know that this person's gonna go do this thing come hell or high water, whether I invest or not.”
Gurley emphasizes the person matters more than the concept, citing founders who pivoted 180 degrees.
“And we've seen incredible businesses be built by great founders who have pivoted a 180 degrees from the original idea.”
Gurley found Dell trading at six times earnings after laptop fire and option hedging problems.
“It was trading at six times earnings. Their laptop had caught on fire, and they had this option hedging strategy gone awry Uh-huh.”
Gurley says venture capital requires breaking your own rules or you'll say no to everything.
“venture capital is a game where you have to one of the reasons, group decision making works so well is you're you're gonna have to break one of your rules or you're gonna say no to everything.”
Gurley quotes Bezos saying he only looks for determinism in founders who will succeed regardless of investment.
“He said, I wanna believe this person's gonna go do this, come hell or high water, whether I get involved or not, nothing's gonna stop him. And that's the trade he's looking for.”
Gurley explains venture capitalists live in fear of missing the one or two asymmetric deals each year.
“Once again, because of this asymmetric outcome thing, live in fear of missing this one or two deals a year. There's like, how could you possibly minimize the chance of not finding that?”
Gurley cites Uber shifting from burning $2B yearly to generating $10B in free cash flow through unit economics understanding.
“I mean, Uber was burning 2,000,000,000 a year and Dara had 10,000,000,000 in free cash flow last year. Being able to make that shift, it's gonna require an innate understanding of your true unit economics.”
Marks calls AI the hardest thing he has ever seen in investing due to enormous uncertainty.
“This is the hardest thing I think I've ever seen in the investment world because of this enormous degree of uncertainty.”
Marks outlines four ways to achieve superior returns: buying below value, financial structure, adding operational value, and premium valuations.
“You apply the right financial structure, which also which often means leverage, you add value intrinsically to the operation, and you see it go to a premium valuation relative to what you pay.”