The Minutes

Howard Marks on

cycles

8 entries, 14 Jan 2019 to 26 May 2026

On the recordsourced and dated, oldest first

    1. spoken

      Marks identifies too much money chasing too few deals as the seven worst words in investing.

      “Now remember, the four worst words in the world were, it's different this time, the seven worst words in the world are too much money chasing too few deals.”

      14 Jan 2019 · Milken Institute · 1:04:37 · source · permalink
    2. spoken

      Marks identifies it's different this time as the four worst words in the world for investors.

      “If you say to them, you know, well that happened twenty and forty years ago and it ended badly, what they say is they use the four worst words in the world.”

      14 Jan 2019 · Milken Institute · 3:30 · source · permalink
    1. spoken

      Marks says investor psychology swings from flawless to hopeless while reality fluctuates more moderately.

      “in real life things fluctuate between pretty good and not so hot but in the minds of investors, they go from flawless to hopeless.”

      7 Sep 2025 · The Church Sag Harbor · 35:44 · source · permalink
    2. spoken

      Marks defines market cycles as excesses and corrections rather than simple ups and downs.

      “The way to think of of a pattern of of cycle is excesses and corrections. So so for example, let's look here. What's happening here?”

      7 Sep 2025 · The Church Sag Harbor · 37:27 · source · permalink
    1. spoken

      Marks reframes economic cycles as excesses and corrections around trend lines rather than simple ups and downs.

      “So rather than thinking of cycles as ups and downs, which I think most people do, think of them as excesses and corrections, excesses and corrections.”

      4 May 2026 · Nikhil Kamath · 17:31 · source · permalink
    2. spoken

      Marks reframes cycles not as ups and downs but as excesses and corrections around a trend line.

      “So rather than thinking of cycles as ups and downs, which I think most people do, think of them as excesses and corrections, excesses and corrections. Fluctuations around the trend line.”

      4 May 2026 · Nikhil Kamath · 17:31 · source · permalink
    3. spoken

      Marks observes S&P returns almost never fall between eight and twelve percent despite ten percent average.

      “And not only is that an interesting phenomenon to think about, but even more so, the fact that the return on the S and P, which averages 10, is almost never between eight and twelve.”

      4 May 2026 · Nikhil Kamath · 19:10 · source · permalink
    4. spoken

      Marks explains that while underlying progress is gradual, prices fluctuate wildly around trend lines due to psychology.

      “So the point is that that whereas, the underlying thing progresses gradually, the price fluctuates wildly around that trend line, and the main reason is, the fluctuation of psychology.”

      26 May 2026 · Oaktree · 1:35 · source · permalink

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