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Marc Rowan on

retirement

10 entries, 20 Apr 2022 to 3 Mar 2026

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    1. spoken

      Rowan says retirement savings companies functioned like banks post-2008, with annuities replacing deposits as liabilities.

      “The next best thing was to be a retirement savings company. But where you thought like a bank the liability side of your balance sheet rather than being deposits was annuities.”

      20 Apr 2022 · David Rubenstein · 10:26 · source · permalink
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      Rowan says a $16 million equity investment grew into $270 billion AUM making it the largest retirement services company.

      “And what started out as a $16,000,000 equity investment has now morphed into 270,000,000,000 of AUM and the largest retirement services company in”

      20 Apr 2022 · David Rubenstein · 10:41 · source · permalink
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      Rowan calls this the golden age of annuities due to massive money flows into retirement services.

      “Amazing amount of money flowing into retirement services, particularly annuities. I would say the golden age of annuities, but we are borrowed You think”

      1 May 2023 · CNBC Television · 3:57 · source · permalink
    2. spoken

      “So in 2008, we started with a $16,000,000 equity investment. We ended the year at 330,000,000,000 and have become the largest provider of retirement products in The US.”

      11 May 2023 · Barron's · 0:56 · source · permalink
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      Rowan says Athene's new sales grew from $20 billion four years ago to over $60 billion this year.

      “Four years ago, we were 20,000,000,000 of new sales, then 30,000,000,000, then 47,000,000,000. This year, we'll do north of $60,000,000,000 of new sales, and it continues to be.”

      11 May 2023 · Barron's · 12:28 · source · permalink
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      Rowan argues retirement systems know their liquidity needs for ten years and should get paid for illiquidity.

      “Liquidity liquidity is a risk to everyone but in differing degrees. So if you are a retirement plan or a retirement system, you know your liquidity requirements for the next ten years.”

      5 Dec 2023 · Bloomberg Television · 1:05 · source · permalink
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      Rowan criticizes putting $12-13 trillion in 401(k)s into S&P index funds based on mistaken belief public is safer than private.

      “They own daily liquid stock index funds generally S and P for fifty years. Why. Well we have a mistaken belief that public is safe and private is risky.”

      2 Oct 2024 · Bloomberg Television · 9:59 · source · permalink
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      Rowan calculates an extra one percent compounded return produces 50% to 100% better retirement outcomes.

      “And if you go to the extreme and you take retirees, for instance, in 04/2001, an extra percent compounded over the duration of how long you're going to be in there is a 50% to 100% better outcome by having better investments.”

      3 Mar 2026 · Bloomberg Live · 31:13 · source · permalink
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      Rowan claims an extra 1% return compounded over time produces 50-100% better retirement outcomes for retirees.

      “But if you look around the world, every place that private assets have been added to public portfolios, you've gotten better outcomes.”

      3 Mar 2026 · Bloomberg Live · 31:05 · source · permalink
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      Rowan jokes U.S. retirement system is effectively levered to NVIDIA through market concentration.

      “We've essentially, as I sometimes joke, we've levered the entirety of the retirement system of The U. S. To NVIDIA.”

      3 Mar 2026 · Bloomberg Podcasts · 15:59 · source · permalink

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