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Brad Gerstner on

consumer

4 entries, 28 Sep 2023 to 31 Jul 2025

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    1. spoken

      Gerstner notes rates have jumped from zero to 8% mortgages, 10% car loans, and 20% credit cards.

      “We've gone from effectively a 0% interest rate environment in ZERP, where corporations borrowed for free and consumers borrowed for free, to now we have 8% mortgages. We have 10% car loans.”

      28 Sep 2023 · CNBC Television · 2:32 · source · permalink
    1. spoken

      Gerstner reports OpenAI consumer product has 65% annual churn rate based on credit card data.

      “At least for the cohorts that are old enough, the churn's about 65% annually. So they're only 35% retaining, which Sax had hinted at on all in.”

      22 Jun 2024 · BG2 Pod · 32:20 · source · permalink
    2. spoken

      Gerstner estimates OpenAI's consumer business represents $2.1 billion of roughly $3-4 billion total revenue.

      “It would imply that there are about 2.1 of the three four is the consumer business”

      22 Jun 2024 · BG2 Pod · 32:04 · source · permalink
    1. spoken

      Gerstner argues consumer ownership, not hardware, determines value; Google dominated for twenty years this way.

      “The battle for the consumer is ultimately where the value accrues, Sonny, not who runs, you know, what hardware.”

      31 Jul 2025 · BG2 Pod · 44:58 · source · permalink

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