Gurley recounts learning Jobs personally decided which icons appear on the iPhone home screen.
“Because we've got some great companies, Zillow, OpenTable, and I love to talk to him about getting something on there. And he just starts laughing.”
Gurley notes Apple grew from $2 billion to $343 billion market cap under Jobs, exceeding Microsoft and Intel combined.
“started at $2,000,000,000 when in market cap when he came in. Today, they're three forty three and bigger than Microsoft and Intel combined.”
Gurley notes Apple started at $2 billion market cap when Jobs returned.
“You can only you can only say great things because the company I mean, to think about what this company has started at $2,000,000,000 when”
Gurley says Zuckerberg described Apple blocking product improvements as soul crushing, motivating Meta's open source commitment.
“Great word. When you develop, work really hard on a product improvement, and then you have a company that says, no.”
Gurley says Google and Apple present completely one-sided partnership terms that would be unacceptable with other parties.
“And you're presented with a set of terms that you would never consider with any other party out there. It's a completely one-sided deal.”